Honorary Consulate of Indonesia in Dublin

Alexander Aan – Part 2
Part 2 of 2

Maybe Indonesia actually wants to be ridiculed and villified because of their middle ages approach to human rights but, if Indonesia wants to be seen as an upholder of freedom of speech and fundamental human rights, like free and democratic states, the Alexander Aan nonsense is one of the best ways to make sure that it fails, in every respect, to be so seen.

Does the Indonesian government actually think that banging Alexander up for five years is actually going change the way that he thinks? According to the latest news, it may be that Alexander has been 'persuaded' whilst in police custody, by whatever techniques, to accept the teachings of Islam and declare himself to be a Muslim. Come off it, atheists don't martyr themselves, they live to fight another day because once you're dead, you're dead, there's no afterlife and no second chance.

The Indonesian government, the Roman Catholic Church and all the Mullahs in Islam cannot change how a human being thinks. To believe otherwise is just plain stupid. To legislate to enforce such a belief is asinine.

I trust that you will convey this message to the Indonesian Ministry of Home Affairs – and the Ministry of Religious Affairs – to let them know that non-belief or, indeed, belief one of the over 3,500 religions that the Indonesian government chooses to discriminate against, is a state of mind, not a crime.

Yours sincerely,

Jonathan Pierson

Caulstown
Bellewstown
Drogheda
Co. Meath

Tel: 041 982 3801
Mob: 087 639 2880
email: jonpierson at eircom dot net

Alexander Aan - Part 1
Part 1 of 2

I have already sent this message to Mr Ray Sison, Honorary Consul of Indonesia in Ireland, but I feel that my message to the Indonesian government should be made available to the international community. My email to Mr Sison reads as follows:


Dear Mr Sison,

I was horrified to discover that a citizen of Indonesia was beaten up, presumably by thugs who believe that their, no doubt 'peaceful', religion requires such obscene violence to be inflicted, because he published the perfectly reasonable view that 'there is no god' on his Facebook page.

I happen to agree with Alexander – that there is no god – but, as an Irish citizen, I would not expect to be physically assaulted by members of the various religions that practice in the State for saying so, in much the same way that I, along with a gang of fellow atheists, do not go around beating up individuals who claim to believe in any god or gods.

Having researched this matter, it appears that, to obtain an identity card in Indonesia, one must declare fealty to one of six religions; Catholic Christianity, Protestant Christianity, Islam, Confucianism, Buddhism or Hinduism. Alexander Ann does not adhere to any of these religions, in fact, he rejects them all, along with all the other 3,500 to 4,000 religions practiced in the world today.

It seems to me that adherents to any of the six religions mentioned must, by definition, reject the teachings of the other five and, as far as the other five are concerned, are atheists, heretics, lost souls or Satanists. All Alexander Aan did was to go one god further by rejecting all six, rather than five of the permitted Indonesian religions.

I have no problem with people worshiping whatever imaginary friend they want to (apart from feeling sorry for them) and there are far more imaginary friends – gods – around than six. So, why should someone's belief system, whatever it is, subject them to the possibility of a five year stretch in an Indonesian jail?

(contd.)

Alexander Aan
What is the position of the Indonesian Govt with regards to this man's beating and subsequent arrest for claiming non-belief in Allah on Facebook?

VISA
You get visa at airport in INDO , maby u go to Bali, i forget the price but they accept euro !

Contact Information
Hi Andrew and Ben,

you might wanna contact Indonesian Embassy in London directly:

Indonesian Embassy
38 Grosvenor Square
London W1K 2HW

Tel. (020) 7499 7661
Fax. (020)7491 4993

email: kbri@btconnect.com

Visa and Consular Section
38A Adams Row
London W1K

Visa and Consular Section opening hours:
Monday-Thursday
10.00-13.00 for submission only
1. All visa applications
2. Documents to be legalised

14.30-16.00 for collection only.
For all visas and legalised documents. (according to the due dates)

Friday 10.00-12.00
1. All visa applications
2. Documents to be legalised

14.30-16.00 for collection only.
For all visas and legalised documents. (according to the due dates)

email: kbri@btconnect.com

visa
tried making contact too with no response whatsoever

COULD NOT GET IN CONTACT WITH ANYONE
dear sir, madam

i tried many times to ring and send email regarding the obtention of a visa.

Please could you send me an email with all the details.

I would like to know if its possible to do it by post. I am living in LIMERICK.

email adress: benoit22@eircom.net

faithfully

ben